So Doctor Rice, let me start with you. In our model, the physician acts as a quarterback. Can adding Avandia help you? And, in fact, they were more likely to die. You've done some sweating. It is important to keep in mind. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I feel like I'm warming up a little bit. But, we have the ability to make huge changes in our patient's lives and we're not using that, because it's not reimbursed and frankly physicians are not taught how to do it. And maybe it would be easier to take care of people and keep them from getting sick before they actually did get sick. Here's a couple simple tips. You're doing this radical intervention, you know, I say radical? When they have insurance and they have access to usual source of care, primary care. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just take a couple of minutes to kind of arrive. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The healthcare reform bill that was enacted achieved two of the insurance industry's major objectives. They either couldn't afford it, or they worked for small employers that had been purged by big insurance companies. ROBERT YATES, INFANTRY, U.S. ARMY: Been shot. STEVE BURD, CEO, SAFEWAY: In 2005 we had a billion-dollar health care bill rising at the rate of $100 million a year. Escape From Tarkov developer Battlestate Games has issued a statement outlining its plans to tackle cheaters in the game, following the release of a community-made video . We can't prevent disease in everybody, but we have to try. Insurance companies have always been able to regulate the rates they charge. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He really did. And you've had heart attacks. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because he's real sleepy? What would happen? OSBORN: Oh, it's so beautiful! I'm going to the emergency department. Now you're going to get the scissors. Up next, CNN Films presents "ESCAPE FIRE: THE FIGHT TO RESCUE AMERICAN HEALTHCARE." more . It has to do with the training of physicians. He's like really not listening very well. The next group of people are people that have tried medical therapy, that are on medical therapy and failing. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. Co-directed by Matthew Heineman and Academy Award-nominee Susan Froemke (Lalee's Kin: The Legacy of Cotton), Escape Fire looks at a U.S. healthcare system designed to profit on disease not. I was taking 64 pills a day of combinations of Roxaset and Oxycotin. Most diseases don't happen overnight. As a society, we have to make it easier and more affordable for people to make better lifestyle choices than worse ones. It doesn't reward them for doing a better job. And welcome home. Transcripts; License . I imagine the other smoke jumpers thought the guy was crazy, but his idea was this. Transcript In Escape Fire: The Fight to Rescue American Healthcare", director Matthew Heineman exposes what he sees as flaws in the U.S. healthcare system, such as a doctor who can spend just. I say, radical? It had to do with the idea of essentially paying people to be healthy. MARTIN: I think what the American people need is, they need good health care. All right? ROSS: We've become a culture where you drive up, you get what you want, you get it fast, you get it right away, and you drive off. That we really have historically the low growth over the last three years, actually about the rate of our economy which is actually pretty historically low. And sometimes push the plate away. DR. ANDREW WEIL: There's the bright blue slush. I just could not continue doing what I was doing. Your arteries around the heart. That's how embedded people get in the status quo. I need some help over here. A stapler, this stapler that is often to used in surgery, like this? Half of Americans will be diabetic or pre-diabetic in the next 10 years. ROSS: Do you have any eating habits -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I eat the regular food and stuff. WEIL: Most of this huge effort of the healthcare industry is devoted to intervention in established disease and the majority of that disease is lifestyle related and preventable. All these folks have driven from 400 and 500 miles away, waiting to get care that was providing to them for free. Escape Fire: The Fight to Rescue American Healthcare is a 2012 feature-length documentary directed by Matthew Heineman and Susan Froemke and released by Roadside Attractions. And you say that you can help negotiate the price of these bills down, what do you tell people? CAPT. YATES: I was in the worst place in Afghanistan. Am I going to be paying more? BERWICK: The healthcare system isn't affordable anymore. ROBIN CARNES, WALTER REED ARMY MEDICAL ENTER MEDITATION INSTRUCTOR: The first thing I'd like to do is teach you a breathing exercise with a targeted effect on post-traumatic stress. They'll say, it took years to develop something like this, the research and development costs are significant. BROWNLEE: We spend a spectacular amount of money on healthcare. I ultimately had a crisis of conscience, because I was not at all proud of what I was doing. If they are surgeons, they get paid for each procedure. I think a large part of it is personal issues, where we have different behaviors that I think increase our burden of disease. The army sergeant general directed that we establish the pain management task force to take a look at alternatives to narcotics. Hold my beer while I shoot this gator, you know? But one evening, I sat straight up in bed with the worst chest pain. OSBORN: I've started doing research about where in the United States do I have to go to get the best heart care. NISSEN: We're not saying that people are doing these procedures for profit. American healthcare costs are rising so rapidly that they could reach $4.2 trillion annually, roughly 20% of our gross domestic product, within ten years. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, I need some help over here. It's just a terrible tragedy for patients. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. CINDY ROBERTSON, ADMINISTRATOR, MD-COLOMBIA FAMILY HEALTH CENTER: We're the only clinic in this community county, so it's about 20,000 people overall. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. That requires so much work, but we do it because we're committed to having her stay out of the hospital. But then Dean Ornish was starting his program to see if you can reverse heart disease through a lifestyle change, and he went to my doctor and asked if he could approach me. Adding Avandia can help. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. Invisible as it is, it's just as significant as a bullet wounds to the -- to the head or chest. In the dialog that appears, select the language of the file you're uploading. I'm not sure every country in the world does it perfectly. And they formed a group practice they decided that they would pay themselves a salary and the money that was left would go back into growing the organization. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I lost about 120 pounds over the course of three years. So putting more money into innovations and all of these things, yes, they're need in certain instances, especially emergency care, and things like that. YATES: I meditate, and it has opened up a whole new world for me. It was so consistent. All Dogs Go to Heaven/Transcript. GEN. RICHARD THOMAS, ASSISTANT SURGEON-GENERAL, U.S. ARMY: As we've pushed medical innovation and capability to the leading edge of the battlefield where we can save their life, and we've got some guys who have had some horrific injuries and they're getting narcotics for a longer period of time, they certainly are at risk to develop dependency, and that's what we're trying to avoid. Our healthcare premium starts here, and if you have a body mass index less than 30, you get a discount. I tried to get him up, he just rolled himself out. The New Zealand and the United States, only two countries in the world where you can advertise prescription drugs. They didn't want to have a new competitor. UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: It's an idea that's received national attention. MEL LEFER, PETALUMA, CALIFORNIA: 25 years ago I had five restaurants in San Francisco. But I decided to give it a shot. MARTIN: I'm going to make a phone call and try and get some wheels in motion so that we can get you the help that you need. GUPTA: Are you optimistic about the future when it am could to family care, and when it comes to our health care overall? GEN. RICHARD THOMAS, ASSISTANT SURGEON-GENERAL, U.S. ARMY: This is a national problem for us, you know, we're seeing the military just being a microcosm, I think, of the problems society is having. I mean, what is that, boy? Escape Fire Background.The video essay Escape Fire (2012) was heralded as a breakthrough in the understanding of and . When medicine became a business, we lost our moral compass. These are techniques that should be used to relieve symptoms. (CROSSTALK) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Overmedicating is a huge problem in society and the military is no exception. She needs a follow-up within three month with an echo. And we see that suffering. WEIL: Right. And we're going to be doing CPR on a patient. See you soon. We need a whole new kind of medicine. This is just an unbelievable amount of stents and cardiac caths. She's still taking her Lexapro, but it's obviously not doing the job. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm going to leave these in for about five, seven minutes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. How to Get YouTube Transcripts on Desktop On a desktop or laptop, head on over to YouTube.com in a web browser such as Google Chrome and open a video to watch. NISSEN: Finally, the FDA put severe restrictions on the drug. 4:00 Minute Teaser Video UPDATE: "In 2010, the US spent $2.5 trillion on healthcare." But now (in 2018) we are spending $3.65 trillion/year. And when we come back, just how much does profit play a role in all these treatment decisions. And the company did nothing. NIEMTZOW: Any pain? I'll look up and I'll see a person who's overweight across the street. So Lexapro is the only thing you're on right now? And I knew what I was doing for a living was making it necessary for those folks to stand in line to wait for care in animal stalls and barns. There's saving money and there's cost effective. We want that. I'm not interested in getting my productivity up. BROWNLEE: The really astonishing part about the fact that we spend more is we have worst health outcomes. Get educated on these issues and add your voice to a growing chorus for change. The present system doesn't work and it's going to take us down. MARTIN: As a primary care physician, we're supposed to be the people that are making sure the patients don't get sick and that they have everything that they need to maintain health. It's getting rid of the bad thing. ESCAPE FIRE tackles one of the most pressing issues of our time: what can be done to save our broken medical system? They did not tell physicians. Healthcare reform was a good place to start, but it will do little to address the root problems. YATES: I'm a red neck south Louisiana boy, just old Hill Billy, you know? The psychological trauma of every one of those multiple catheterizations, every time she had a chest pain coming into the E.R., and unfortunately, there are lots of Yvonnes out there. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Now you pick your spot. So he figured I was going to die because I was in such bad shape. KATY KASCH, HEAD NURSE, AIR MOBILITY COMMAND: Yes. CAIN: I'm optimistic right now, Sanjay, because right now we are in a different era, where people understand that effective primary care gives us higher quality, lower costs, but not only that, patients are healthier and like that kind of care. I'm one of the busiest surgeons in the country, however, I don't believe every men with prostate cancer needs immediate treatment. I have an insurance now perhaps. And I thought, once I get this, I won't have the blockages anymore. If someone has compression of one of their lungs, they might need a chest tube like this, $1100. That's good. It's not true in the United Kingdom. Frederick Douglass forcefully advocated for others to escape slavery, and in doing so violated laws in southern states that specifically criminalized this speech. You know? People come in and you try to fix one thing and they come back for the same thing over and over and over. BURD: All right. Again, you were part of the documentary. I was on Valium just for the anxiety. Her cholesterol was never well controlled, and her high blood pressure was never well controlled. She had bypass surgery in her 30, 27 cardiac cauterization and well over seven stents before she went to the Cleveland clinic for treatment. I have an acutely suicidal patient in my office that I need help with. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) DR. ERIN MARTIN, PRIMARY CARE: After I'd left La Clinica, I joined this new practice. NISSEN: Because of the money that's involved, getting people to do the right thing for the American people has become extremely difficult. BROWNLEE: More than half of men over the age of 50 get a PSA test every year to try to detect prostate cancer early. And that is where the affordable care act can help which is bringing more competition to the bidding and pricing of these items. DEAN MICHAEL ORNISH, PREVENTIVE MEDICINE RESEARCH INSTITUTE: When you're doing something that has never been done before, it's not universally accepted, to say the least. It's too much paying for it. We're dealing with the health of the nation. JONAS: There's very large randomized trials done at multiple centers that have demonstrated that acupuncture works, so we put together a study to see if we can actually insert this simple acupuncture technique during the aerovacs of wounded soldiers into Walter Reed and other medical centers in the United States. It sounded like it was so bad that you basically had to leave your practice. May everyone be healthy. GUPTA: I'm salaried too as a physician. NANCY DAVENPORT-ENNIS, FOUNDER, CEO, PATIENT ADVOCATE FOUNDATION: So, what we tell them first and foremost, is get a copy of the entire bill and look for redundancies. It's much better to try to work at a deeper level. That also happened in the 1990s. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Without the financial incentives, there's no way I could have gotten to the point that I am now, at saving literally thousands of dollars over the past few years by being healthier. Fire Escape Transcript. The film interweaves personal stories with the efforts of leaders battling to transform it. And it's just the last thing that you're really concerned about. And that being applied to health care just doesn't work. And doctors wanting to please their patients will often prescribe it. Yvonne Osborn began suffering from severe chest pain at the age of 34. Who pays for that? So now, "ESCAPE FIRE: THE FIGHT TO RESCUE AMERICAN HEALTHCARE." Select Open transcript . Because what we think is best for us often isn't. So here I am going in and out of the hospital to find out what's going on. They have a blockage that's not causing symptoms and yet they're actually having a procedure. So, if there's a concern someone has a tumor, they who use a needle like this. (LAUGHTER) That's the way I like to look at it. CHO: Oh, my God. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are you going to do at work? CARNES: Release the breath in a smooth, even stream out. DR. JEFFREY CAIN, PRESIDENT, AMERICAN ACADEMY OF FAMILY PHYSICIANS: We know that patients are healthier when they have two things. YATES: OK. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think we have about 25 patients for today for Dr. Martin. (END VIDEO CLIP) GUPTA: And Yvonne I the patient in that video. He lit a match and he lit a fire at his own feet. GUPTA: In the spirit of educating people out there, I think I have cardiac disease in my family. It rewards them for delivering more care. It just doesn't work out financially. And feel yourself observing all these constantly changing sensations and thoughts and feelings. . BERWICK: It's so frustrating to know how high the risks are and how easy the answers are. We've set up a system that often pushes physicians and hospitals in the entire health care system into doing more. WENDELL POTTER, FORMER HEAD OF COMMUNICATIONS, CIGNA: There's the assumption that people who run government, elected officials, members of Congress, but it's not true in many cases. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I quit drinking, too. Trying to get Medicare to cover a heart disease program has been by far the hardest thing I've ever done in my entire life. Also, Nancy Davenport- Ennis, she heads the patient advocate foundation. I mean, everyone wants that probably in every system. Ten allotted. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What I'm arguing for is not to make things tough on industry, it's to make things safe for patients. Why do so many children die so young here? That's built in these costs as well. ROSS: What do you think about that? DR. WAYNE JONAS, PRESIDENT, SAMUELI INSTITUTE, MILITARY MEDICAL RESEARCH: With 10 years of ongoing wars, the amount of suffering that's going on in the military right now is tremendous. It was a passion for healing. And it will not protect you from having a heart attack. But he can have anywhere between five and 10 milligrams of morphine. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've been to the emergency department a few times before, and the last time I was having chest pains, not like this. This is incentives the system so that patient have a less specifically to be of picking the right choice. The answers among us, can we please stop and think and make sense of the situation and get our way out of it? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just -- MARTIN: What were you trying to do? DR. PETER CARROLL, CHAIR, DEPARTMENT OF UROLOGY, UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO: My path crossed with Dean's because we both wanted to bring rigorous clinical trial testing to this hypothesis that lifestyle intervention could have a impact on men with early stage prostate cancer. You have all these stents, and these stents, once they go in, they never come out and are part of you. What we do with waste in healthcare. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right. They can pretty much get away with increasing the rates as much as they want to. We need a whole new kind of medicine. And that is why, our first priority has to be to equalize that access and then move on. So at this point, we will administer the medication. BROWNLEE: The vast majority of doctors in this country are paid by a fee-for-service system. And I think those discussions that we between the patient and the provider about lifestyle disincentives. It's about saving the health of a nation. GUPTA: Why not just pay them more money? They become more productive. ROBERTS: The research found that embracing a low-fat vegetarian diet, exercising half an hour a day, and taking part in daily stress reducing activities can actually change the regulation of genes that are key players in cancer development and contribute to better overall survival. It goes into the other areas, and it's just not sustainable. Who should get a stent? When you're injured they feed you, feed you, feed you all this stuff. It doesn't reward them for keeping their patients healthy. People talk about two-minute doctors. ANNOUCNER: Cleveland Clinic cardiologist Dr. Steven Nissen decided to do his own review. That's it. And that worked for awhile. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's pretty good. What do you say when someone calls you? And I hope our new generation of health professionals will catalyze this social movement that's necessary and enough people get aroused enough about the situation and see it for what it is and then start some kind of grassroots movement to change the political balance of power. And the actual costs for care here is among the lowest in the country. He is also a president of the society for interventional and geography in intervention. We are going to take a short break. And, of course, the natural end point is going to be in the emergency department. This drug was the number one selling diabetes drug in the world in 2006. BURD: I was a business guy and I thought if we could influence behavior of about 200,000-person workforce, we could have a material effect on healthcare costs. U.S. caregivers are told you've got to keep me pain free, you're going to do that. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A platoon of 23. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nine months? When I'm running and it's a hot day and I feel like giving up, it never fails. The emergency department is the safety net of health care. You know, the ads always end with the same phrase, ask your doctor. We're fighting everything for that not to happen, but it's because there isn't the funding going into primary care. Published Feb 22, 2001. And they have to, these for-profit companies by law have to serve shareholders. Host virtual events and webinars to increase engagement and generate leads. RICHARD UMBDENSTOCK, PRESIDENT, AMERICAN HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION: I was almost as surprised as anybody to see the reports that I was the most frequent visitor to the White House during the health reform debate. DR. CLIVE ALONZO, HOSPITAL INTERNIST, CROWN POINT, INDIANA: My medical training was just focused on giving these patients pharmaceuticals or giving them expensive tests to treat the condition after it occurred. Escape Fire premiered at the Sundance Film Festival, [1] opened in select theaters on October 5, 2012, and was simultaneously released on iTunes and Video-on-Demand. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. I can act more as a guide for patients, taking the time to educate them and having them understand that there are choices that they have the power to make for themselves. We have some challenges with access and affordability. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you want to do a pill count with me? GUPTA: But, why are these causing hospitals so expensive? You can export to TXT, DOCX, PDF, HTML, and many . TUCKSON: Primary care doctors are being cared more. It's addictive. One of the three men who survived the Montana fire did so through an ingenious solution and a leap of faith by making an escape fire. 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